I'd
like to thank Becky Norton Dunlop of The Heritage Foundation and
Michelle Easton of the Clare Boothe Luce Policy Institute for
inviting me to speak with you today about the U.S. government's
approach to the role women can play in transitions to
democracy.
I am
delighted to recognize someone whom many of you already know:
Charlie Ponticelli [former Director of Lectures and Seminars at the
Heritage Foundation]. Charlie will play a crucial role on this
vital issue, as the new Senior Coordinator for International
Women's Issues, working directly with me. Both of us look forward
to continuing a very productive relationship with you and other key
groups who have important contributions to make to our policy
dialogue. I'd like to also recognize Cindi Williams from the White
House Office of Public Liaison, who has been an outspoken advocate
on behalf of women.
The
main examples of democratic transitions that I intend to discuss
with you today, as the title of my talk suggests, are both very
timely ones, though they are also quite different: Iraq and
Afghanistan. I know these two countries have been on the minds of
many Americans during the past 18 months.
Let
me say at the outset that the broad principles underlying our
approach to democratic transitions are truly global in scope. As
President George W. Bush said in his first State of the Union
Address, "America will always stand firm for the non-negotiable
demands of human dignity: the rule of law; limits on the power of
the state; respect for women; private property; free speech; equal
justice; and religious tolerance."
These values are a vital part of our
interaction with the whole world--and their scope includes both
women and men, always and everywhere. Indeed, as the President
delivered those words, one of his invited guests of honor in the
chamber was the first Minister of Women's Affairs in liberated
Afghanistan, Dr. Sima Samar.
Now
think about the significance of placing respect for women on this
list. So often, a subset of issues is labeled as "women's issues"
when, at root, all issues are women's issues--from the fight
against terrorism and religious extremism that will make women and
their families safer, to health, to education, to financial
opportunity. Ensuring women's rights benefits not only individuals
and their families; it also strengthens democracy, bolsters
prosperity, enhances stability, and encourages tolerance. It
thereby helps every society realize its full potential, which is an
overarching goal of our own national security strategy.
And
women's rights are at the core of building a civil, law-abiding
society, a prerequisite for true democracies. I think Secretary of
State Colin Powell summed it up best when he said, on International
Women's Day last year, that "women's issues affect not only women;
they have profound implications for all humankind." That helps
explain why this month's State Department magazine features a
signed message from the Secretary whose title tells it all:
"Women's Issues Are Integral to Our Foreign Policy."
That
leads me directly to some comments about Iraq. As President Bush
said just a few weeks ago, we have fought this war both "to rid
Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction, and to free the Iraqi
people from the clutches of a brutal dictator"--and that includes
Iraqi women and children as well as men. We are committed to help
the Iraqi people transition rapidly to a sovereign, representative
form of government that respects human rights, rejects terrorism,
and maintains Iraq's territorial integrity without threatening its
neighbors. We are determined to achieve our objectives, and we have
clearly made significant progress.
In
introducing a group from the organization Women for a Free Iraq a
month ago, I said that we are respectful of nations that differ
from our own. At the same time, we believe that democracy and human
rights are not just for some people, but for all people. They are
universal principles that every man, woman, and child is entitled
to. We want to help Iraqis take back their country after decades of
tyranny and build foundations of a democratic society, a society
based on Iraqi traditions and culture and founded on the universal
principles of freedom and liberty.
The
women of Iraq have a critical role to play in the future revival of
their society. They bring skills and knowledge that will be vital
to restoring Iraq to its rightful place in the region and in the
world. However, the U.S. will not dictate what the future Iraqi
government will look like. Those decisions are for the Iraqi people
to make.
Until just now, Saddam Hussein's regime
brutalized all Iraqis. Men died in the hundreds of thousands, in
wars of aggression and internal repression, leaving women and
children without husbands or fathers. Men, women, and children were
indiscriminately slaughtered in gas and other deliberate attacks on
civilian populations. People were tortured in front of their
families, leaving all scarred for life.
That
is why we see scenes of jubilation in Basra, Baghdad, and Kirkuk as
the statues of Saddam are toppled by the people of Iraq. Now they
can build a future in which all Iraqis--men and women--can
participate in full.
The
Office of International Women's Issues has put together a fact
sheet outlining the horrible fate of Iraqi women under Saddam. You
will see that Saddam's regime has used beheading, rape, torture,
and legalized murder of women as a way to punish women and their
families, in Iraq and abroad, for speaking out simply about the
truth and the horrors of his regime. Saddam's military, almost
incredibly, actually had an official assignment called "al-I'tida'
`ala sharf al-nisa'"--violation of women's honor.
Those women who have nevertheless chosen
to speak out have often been forced into exile. And even in the
midst of this war, President Bush, Vice President Richard Cheney,
and Dr. Condoleezza Rice have met some of these free Iraqi women to
discuss the situation in Iraq and to develop ideas to insure the
full participation of Iraqi women in their country's
reconstruction.
I
was moved by these women. They told chilling stories of the
atrocities they and their families suffered in Saddam's Iraq. These
are the sorts of crimes that this dying regime has continued to
commit right to its bitter end. And yet, despite the terrors that
these women recounted, they exhibited the resolve and courage to
reclaim their country.
Allow me to quote one of these brave
women, Maha Al-Attar, in full. "We are willing to work together and
also with the U.S. to establish democracy," she declared. "It's not
going to be easy. Nobody has said it's going to be easy. But we
don't have any other option but to proceed toward democracy. There
is no other option." And, she continued, "there have been many
instances in the world where people have started from scratch with
democracy. Germany is one. Japan is one. The U.S. was very
influential in helping those countries in establishing democracy,
and I hope it will do the same for us."
The
fact is that there is a precedent for such a transformation inside
Iraq itself. Here is a recent observation by Isobel Coleman,
director of the Council on Foreign Relations project on U.S.
Foreign Policy and Women: "In northern Iraq," she writes,
3.6 million Kurds have carved out an
economic and political system under the protection of the U.S. and
British no-fly zone. Kurdish women travel there freely, hold
high-level economic and political positions and have been critical
to the region's revival. Several Kurdish women serve as judges, and
two regional government ministers are women. Hotels and restaurants
there have flourished, patronized in large part by Iranians who
cross the border to enjoy the freer, no-veil-required environment
for women.
These examples of women's participation in
the democratic political and economic structures of northern Iraq
indicate what is possible for women--and for men--in the rest of
the country, including other Iraqi men and women who fled Saddam's
terror over the past three decades. More will return to rebuild
their country, prepared to take on leadership roles.
President Bush put it very succinctly this
week. Squelching any rumors that our victorious coalition might
seek to "impose" a new leader on Iraq, the President simply said:
"Forget it.... From day one, we have said the Iraqi people are
capable of running their own country. And that's precisely what is
going to happen."
As
events in Iraq unfold, we will continue our efforts to work with
Iraqi women and men to ensure their participation in a free and
open Iraq. And there is plenty of work to be done, in every area
where we typically support women's issues: from human rights, to
political participation, to economic opportunity, to education.
Unfortunately, some people still believe
that totalitarian regimes like Saddam's offer "progress" on women's
rights under a dictator's thumb. To be sure, most Iraqi women have
not been secluded at home, as were women under the rule of the
Taliban and some other backward regimes. Yet, in reality, Iraqi
women have not fared well at all by world standards, whether in
education, employment, or health care, under the brutal Ba'ath
regime. Nor, for that matter, of course, have Iraqi men.
Iraq
was once a seat of great learning and social progress. But now,
according to UNESCO figures, only one-quarter of Iraqi women can
read and write; even the World Bank's figure, while substantially
higher, is nevertheless under half. Iraqi men have fared somewhat
better in this respect, but still only a bare majority are
literate. Just one out of every five Iraqi women has found paid
employment of any kind.
The
children of Iraq have also suffered greatly from Saddam's misrule.
Many of their fathers have been needlessly sacrificed in lawless
military adventures, and their entire families have been hostage to
the most vicious suppression of all political or religious freedom.
Child mortality rates have been staggeringly high--as high as 13
percent by one recently published estimate--all because of the
perverted priorities of Saddam. He built palaces and poison
factories while hospitals and other health services languished for
lack of attention. We can now help the Iraqi people to change this
inhuman agenda, one that was foisted upon them by an utterly
unscrupulous ruling clique.
In
contrast, our own abiding concern for the welfare of the Iraqi
people has been a key feature of our policy during this crisis. We
have supported contingency planning for the humanitarian needs of
innocent civilians trapped by or fleeing from Saddam's forces. We
have helped the U.N. and other international organizations, like
the Red Cross, pre-position staff, food, tents, and emergency
supplies. We have helped Iraq's neighbors prepare for a possible
influx of refugees.
Even
as we were compelled to engage in combat against Saddam's ruthless
dictatorship, we have conducted de-mining and other operations so
that humanitarian assistance can reach the people of Iraq. And we
have taken extraordinary measures to minimize the effects of war on
Iraqi civilians and infrastructure. Where unavoidable damage or
human tragedy has occurred, we will do everything humanly possible
to heal the wounded and to get essential facilities and services
back into operation as quickly as these emergency circumstances
allow.
Today, we are already well into the
planning and initial implementation of Iraq's reconstruction. And I
don't mean just bridges and buildings; I also mean the human needs
of education and employment, for Iraqi girls and women as well as
boys and men. For example, we will support Iraqi efforts to prepare
school materials that will help teach the country's youth about
tolerance and individual freedoms rather than the belligerent,
totalitarian content that has been standard in Saddam's textbooks
for an entire generation.
On
the economic front, we are also thinking about how to help Iraqi
women overcome the legacy of dependence on government rations and
handouts. To cite just one instance, we hope to invite a
representative group of aspiring Iraqi businesswomen to an
NGO-sponsored Arab Women's Summit planned for Morocco this coming
June. And the Iraqi women I have met lately have shown their
gratitude for our support. As one of them, Esra Naama, put it to
the press a few weeks ago, "We want to thank President Bush and the
troops that are there in the desert.... Thank you for helping my
people and for going to liberate my country."
Iraq
is obviously a huge effort, but it should not obscure and will not
obstruct the work we are doing in other places.
When
it comes to women's rights, in particular, I can cite the very
different example of Afghanistan. Our commitment to that cause, and
to broad humanitarian and reconstruction assistance there, will not
change, despite other events around the world. President Bush has
said we are committed to Afghanistan for the long term. In January,
when I led a high-level delegation to Kabul, the President sent a
personal message to President Hamid Karzai and to the Afghan people
reaffirming that commitment.
In
Afghanistan--and elsewhere around the globe--in addition to
providing assistance on a national level, we support and encourage
public-private partnerships in a range of humanitarian and economic
development ventures. The U.S.-Afghan Women's Council, inaugurated
by Presidents Bush and Karzai at their very first meeting in
January 2002, promotes private-public partnerships between U.S. and
Afghan institutions. The council has mobilized the private sector
in the U.S. to support Afghan women, including a program of
computer education and leadership training for women working in
government ministries.
The
delegation I took to Kabul this past January, composed of both
government officials and private-sector representatives, was in
fact for a meeting of this U.S.-Afghan Women's Council, the first
to be held inside Afghanistan. I was gratified that President Bush
asked his adviser, Karen Hughes, to join our delegation, indicating
the special importance he continues to attach to this issue.
During the visit, I announced that the
U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) would contribute
$2.5 million in support of the creation of women's resource centers
in 14 provinces of Afghanistan, and that the council would issue $1
million in grants to support educational programs at these centers.
The council's work is just one of the ways that the U.S. government
continues to support the full participation of women in the
reconstruction of Afghanistan--and not just in Kabul, but
everywhere in the country.
The
situation has changed considerably in Afghanistan since the fall of
the Taliban. As you know, one mark of the Taliban was their refusal
to allow girls to go to school. This year, the new Afghan Ministry
of Education estimates that over 5 million children are in school,
and 42 percent of these students are girls. This means over 2
million schoolgirls--compared to the previous, pre-Taliban all-time
Afghan record of just 350,000. USAID is providing over $60 million
in a three-year package to help Afghan education, including school
construction, textbook production, and teacher training.
Our
work in Afghanistan is far from finished, but we can take some
pride in what we have already accomplished there. I am also pleased
that many NGOs have commented on the great value of our Afghan
effort. As a statement issued on March 14 by the International
Crisis Group put it,
The creation of a Ministry of Women's
Affairs, significant donor commitment and the return of women to
universities, schools and government offices heralded a new day for
women in Afghanistan.... There is little reason to doubt the
commitment of the Karzai administration and its international
partners to address discrimination against women and improve their
access to civic life.
Beyond Iraq and Afghanistan, we are
working in other countries around the world to encourage the
participation of women in transitions to a more democratic way of
life. Let me conclude with one brief example of this cooperative
approach to encouraging women's political and economic
participation.
Last
December, Secretary Powell announced the U.S.-Middle East
Partnership Initiative (MEPI). In fact, he delivered his speech
right here at The Heritage Foundation. The initiative will provide
a framework and funding for the U.S. to work together with
governments and people in the Arab world to expand economic,
political, and educational opportunities for all. An important
focus of the initiative is equality of opportunity for women,
whether in education or employment, civil society or political
participation.
The
projects are still in the early stages. The general idea, however,
is to extend to a new part of the world, with appropriate
allowances for local cultures and conditions, some of the work that
we continue to pursue successfully in various Asian, African, and
Latin American countries. We intend to do this through a genuine
partnership with governments, people, and non-government
organizations, including the private sector. Partnership will be
the hallmark of our approach--and the best guarantee of achieving
real results on the ground that meet the needs of people and their
governments.
This
will not happen overnight, nor can the United States bear sole
responsibility for this global transition to democracy. But doing
our share is an effort well worth our dedication and our
perseverance. Ultimately, it promises to fulfill the President's
vision, which I know you and most Americans share, of a world in
which humanity's most basic values are respected so that free
individuals--men and women alike--can live in free societies that
no longer threaten each other.
As
we work to find realistic, practical measures that will help
translate this bold vision into reality, we will welcome your
suggestions and your support.
Q &
A
MICHELLE
EASTON: All of us, all Americans, have been watching the
war on TV. I wanted to ask you about Iraq. What are our priorities
right now? What do they need? How is the situation in Iraq
different from Afghanistan?
DR.
DOBRIANSKY: In discussions that we have had with a number
of Iraqi women--those in exile, others who have resettled here in
the United States--they have indicated that one of their number-one
priorities, which affects not only women but men, the citizenry at
large, is the importance of human rights and the protection of the
rights of all Iraqi citizens. So as one of our goals, we really
want to see a structure that is established and institutions that
are established, laws that are put into place, that protect the
rights of all Iraqi citizens, and in particular those of women.
Second, women have spoken out about the
importance of political participation. Naturally, with the kind of
political ferment that we will see before us, women want to be part
of that process and must be part of that process. They have a
pivotal and crucial role to play. Women have an expertise to bring
to the table. They're part of society, and they have ideas to bring
to the discussions about how Iraq moves forward. So we want to be
supportive to ensure that Iraqi women are in fact integral to the
political processes that unfold.
The
third area is economic development, which will also be very crucial
for Iraq. One concern here is how to ensure that women are afforded
opportunities to develop their own businesses, to develop their own
enterprises, and toward that end, we want to work with them.
I
also will put in the mix, as I mentioned very strongly in my
remarks, the importance of education and how education is a crucial
underpinning, in fact, to all. Women want to see themselves
advance; they want to be able to have skills which they can
develop, and you can do that through education.
Every single priority that I've mentioned
to you affects all in Iraq. In fact, when the Women for Free Iraq,
for example, came and visited the White House and were here in
Washington for a series of meetings, they were here also in tandem
with a number of groups giving their views with regard to Iraq, and
this was a combination of men and women. What was striking to me,
it was a very integrated approach in support of these
priorities.
The
second part of your question was the difference here. I would say
that, just looking at the issue specifically of women, we're
talking about a marked difference because, as we know, in
Afghanistan under the Taliban regime, women were not even permitted
to go out of the house unless they were accompanied. They were not
able to undertake an education. They were prohibited from working.
So there were so many different levels in which the scale and the
scope of fundamental rights were literally prevented.
In
the case of Iraq, women, as I suggested, have been part of society;
but the question is, toward what end, and under what context? Under
the context of a dictator. So, for those women who had been
integrated into the work force, those women who had been part of
political processes, these were not representative of a realization
of their full potential, to use the words of our national security
strategy. What we would like to see, and what I know they would
like to see, is that ability to come forward, to be able to realize
their full potential in these various areas.
BECKY NORTON
DUNLOP: What are some of the activities--you mentioned
education and government--that the Afghanistan women are able to
engage in now that they weren't able to engage in, and how are your
efforts able to encourage and enhance their lives in those
areas?
DR.
DOBRIANSKY: As we focus on other areas, one of the
messages that we really want to have continued, as sent by
President Bush and certainly underscored by our delegation that
visited Afghanistan, is that Afghanistan matters, and we are
committed for the long haul in Afghanistan, and our programs are
geared to help Afghanistan move forward.
In
terms of women, I want to mention several specific projects, if I
may. The Afghan women have set forth a number of key areas that are
crucial to them. Education is the number-one area because women
have been deprived of being able to go forward and to get an
education. We're talking about not only young girls in this case.
We're talking about women who may have been in the midst of their
education and were then barred from it during the time of the
Taliban. They want to go back. They want to better themselves. They
want to be active participants in Afghan society.
So,
toward that end, we did announce the construction of these resource
centers in 14 provinces. I mentioned that we have a $1 million
grant out there for educational projects. These projects are also
in four different areas: for those who want to look at the area of
human rights and pursue work in that area, for those who want to
develop businesses, for those who want to work in the area of
improving the health care system in Afghanistan and to meet the
needs of women.
There are so many areas, but we are
working quite specifically on education, and also in the area of
developing microfinance programs.
We
have given resources to a number of NGOs that in turn have provided
seed money to Afghan women who in turn have used small amounts of
money to create their own businesses and to further their own
businesses. This small amount of money goes a long way. A simple
purchase of a sewing machine can really do wonders in terms of the
multiplier effect on your output.
The
other area in which women have been very involved, and in which
we're encouraging them, is human rights. Afghanistan right now is
in the midst of discussing its constitution and the establishment
of a rule of law structure, a judiciary. Dr. Sima Samar, who was
the first head of the Afghan Women's Affairs Ministry, is the head
of the Human Rights Commission. We are working closely with these
commissions, with the Human Rights Commission, the Constitutional
Commission, as well as the Judicial Commission, in assisting them
as they move forward with their work.
One
of our bureaus at the State Department, the Bureau of International
Narcotics and Law Enforcement, hosted a conference here with the
U.S. Institute of Peace specifically to try to bring together
members of various commissions from Afghanistan to sit down with
U.S. counterparts and counterparts from a number of countries so
that they could get a comparative approach as relevant to judicial
processes, for example. In other words, we are aggressively moving
forward, and we are moving forward for the long haul in this
area.
UNIDENTIFIED
GUEST: You had mentioned the U.S.-Afghan Women's Council,
and I wondered if you could speak a little bit about the activities
that they're initiating and what they're doing specifically.
DR.
DOBRIANSKY: When the council met in Afghanistan, that was
our second meeting. The council first met in Washington, then in
Afghanistan, and we're looking to another meeting here in the
United States, and it will go back and forth.
As I
indicated, the purpose of the council is to tap into, in
particular, the kind of overwhelming private support that has been
manifested throughout the United States, and there have been many
who have stepped forward to try to provide assistance and to
channel the assistance in a way that is the most helpful and the
most constructive.
One
of the members of the council assisted us with a program in which
we sponsored some 14 young Afghan women representing different
ministries. They came here to the United States, and the council
set up in a number of locations, in Texas and in California, a
series of meetings with other interlocutors to learn, for example,
about computers, to learn about management skills and management
training. The idea was that when they returned to their respective
ministries, they could apply that knowledge that they benefited
from during this tour here back to their respective positions.
In
addition, when the council met, we were very gratified by the fact
that not only did the three co-chairs come--and the co-chairs
happen to be myself, the Minister of Women's Affairs, and the
Minister of Foreign Affairs--but there were 10 ministers from other
ministries who came to the table. Why was that important, and why
is that relevant to the work of the council? It was very relevant
because some of our council members have provided monies and
support specifically for the resource centers. The resource centers
provide a forum in which young girls, for example, can come and
undertake literacy courses. We have set that up through the private
support in the U.S.-Afghan Women's Council.
In
addition, there was one private contributor who really wanted to
target the area of microfinance and to provide a type of fellowship
but, having started from scratch, needed advice and expertise on
how to do it. Let me give you one last example.
Through the arrangement of the U.S.-Afghan
Women's Council, we are having next week a DVC, a digital
videoconference, which will comprise a mentoring program. The
Afghan Women's Ministry said their young women can really benefit
from having direct conversations with CEOs, with journalists, with
others in this country who have been successful. We will have a
small group of private representatives representing different walks
of life and who are success stories to talk about what it took to
get from one place to another place. What types of best practices
worked? How do you balance difficult issues in terms of family,
educational needs, as well as employment needs?
So
that's another initiative undertaken by the council. These are a
few of the examples.
JULIANA
PILON: Juliana Pilon with the Institute of World Politics.
I was wondering if Ali Jalali's appointment as Minister of the
Interior for Afghanistan has been a factor in your programming. He
was head of VOA Central Asia and a student of mine--I should say,
excellent, a superb gentleman.
What
he understood very well was the importance of using radio,
particularly given the high rate of illiteracy among women. I was
wondering if radio education is being considered. At VOA, he was in
charge of the Afghan radio project, which actually delivered
thousands and thousands of radios, and I just wondered if that's a
factor. You hadn't mentioned it, but I suspect it probably is.
DR.
DOBRIANSKY: It is. Radio is crucial because radio is one
of the most important means of disseminating information throughout
Afghanistan. Absolutely. And, certainly, a priority of President
Karzai has been to ensure that efforts are not just concentrated in
Kabul, but, even more critically, outside of Kabul into the
outlying areas.
This
is crucial for all Afghans, but also especially for women. That's
why, in addition to constructing these resource centers in Kabul,
it's crucial that they are developed in the outlying areas, because
you have many women who want to be engaged, and there are
challenges. It depends upon what area or what sector we are talking
about.
You
mentioned Minister Jalali. We certainly welcome him. He has been
very engaged. One of the areas that he has been most engaged in is
the issue of counternarcotics issues, which is part of his mandate,
but certainly he deals with a broad set of issues as Minister of
the Interior.
But
radio is an important medium. It is one that we have used, and it's
one that we will continue to use.
We
also have sought to support, through private support and through
the council's work, the efforts and initiatives of Afghan women,
and a number of them have come forward with their ideas as relevant
to radio programs and magazines. You have some of the first women's
magazines that have been published, and in which they take great
pride. Those are also ways and means of disseminating information.
So we are actively pursuing and supporting those initiatives.
CHRISTY
HINES : Christy Hines with the U.S. Commission on
International Religious Freedom. I had a question about Afghanistan
as well.
You
mentioned that you're working closely with the Commission on Human
Rights, the Judicial Commission, and I understand the
Constitutional Commission isn't appointed yet, but they're working
on a draft. Is the United States going to have an opportunity to
weigh in on a draft constitution, and will there be any guarantees
for religious freedom as well as other human rights?
DR.
DOBRIANSKY: Absolutely. Our position, right from the
start, is that we want to work with the Afghan people in ensuring
that all rights of all Afghans are protected. That's why I
mentioned this effort that's afoot, because it is a very crucial
one. It is one that brings the constitutional group together with
the judicial group, with the Human Rights Commission. They are all
integrated.
The
very nature of their work will be important for the future of
Afghanistan. We are working closely with them. We have provided our
advice and our expertise. At the same time, it is also very
important for them to step back, to look at what advice we have put
on the table, what advice others have put on the table.
They
have to weigh and balance some decisions for themselves, but that
does not mean at the expense of a lack of protection of religious
freedom or other fundamental human rights. That is an objective
that we want to go forward together on, and President Karzai has
indicated that it is a goal and an objective that he has and that
we do share.
Paula J. Dobriansky is Under Secretary for
Global Affairs in the U.S. Department of State. These remarks were
delivered at the Heritage Foundation to the Conservative Women's
Network, co-hosted by Becky Norton Dunlop, Vice President for
External Relations at The Heritage Foundation, and Michelle Easton,
President of the Clare Boothe Luce Policy Institute.