October 6, 1994
Senator Mitch McConnell is a United States Senator from Kentucky. He spoke at The Heritage Foundation on September 21, 1994. ISSN 0272-1155 0 1994 by The Heritage Foundation.best survey we have in America on'any subject. Every April 15th we get to decide whether we want to divert $1.00 of taxes we already owe to pay- f or the presidential campaign system. And its popularity is dropping dramatically. It is dropping so much that the majority party increased the check-off from $ 1.00 to $3.00 last year to ward off bankruptcy. So now, fewer and fewer peo- ple get to divert m ore and more money from the Treasury. Make no mistake about it in terms of the politics of supporting taxpayer funding of elections. It's terrible. We were working in a congressional campaign a couple of years ago in a fairly lib- eral district in Kentuck y , and found through polling it was worse to support taxpayer-funded elections than it was to raise your own pay. Now, bearing in nuind the public attitude about taxpayer-funded elections, the majority has been seeking in congressional campaign finance ref o rm to diminish, to the maximum extent pos- sible, the amount of tax dollars involved because of the politics of it. And of course, if you do that, then the question arises, how in the world do you get people to comply with the speech limit? If they don't g et a generous subsidy like in the presidential system, why would anybody comply with the spending limit? How are you going to get anybody to shut up? What Democrats have done is craft a number of different punitive measures. And even though they call thes e "voluntary" spending limits, let me ask you whether you think the following would add up to a "voluntary" system? Under the bills that passed both the House and the Sen- ate, if you were so audacious as to want to speak as much as you wanted to and not a c cept the government-prescribed speech limits, the following things would happen: 1) You would lose a 50 percent broadcast discount. 2) Your opponent would receive additional tax dollars to counter- act your excessive speech. 3) A postal discount would be e liminated for you. In other words, your decision to speak as much as you wanted to would provide a reward for your opponent and result in penalties on you. Even worse are provisions to discourage constitutionally protected independent speech-that is, your right as an individual or as part of a group to go into a campaign and say whatever you want to for or against whomever you want to. Under the pending bills a candidate would receive additional tax dollars if somebody independently expressed opposition to him or support for his opponent. Let me give you a hypothetical example. Let's assume that B'nai B'rith or the NAACP thought that it was not a terrific idea for David Duke to be elected to the U.S. Senate from Louisi- ana. And these groups made independen t expenditures against David Duke in Louisiana pointing out his many deficiencies. Under the Democrats' schemes, David Duke would get federal tax dol- lars to counter those independent expenditures by those organizations. Now to say that this proposal is o f dubious constitutionality is to put it mildly. The campaign finance bills reek of unconstitutional provisions. And you'd be interested to know that I'm allied in this fight with the American Civil Liberties Union, which, if this monstrosity becomes law, w ill be the co-plaintiff in the case that I will be bringing. We are very confident that if the pro- posed bills pass, we can win in court. But I would rather not see it get that far. Let me describe for you the efforts we're making here at the end of this session to drive the stake through the heart of this thing for the last time. The Senate passed: a bill in June of 1993 that had one other curious provision that is not in the House bill. The Senators, in order to avoid the ire of the taxpayers, decided t o have no taxpayer funding at all if you didn't speak too much. But if you spoke too much, you would have to pay a corporate tax on your excessive speech: the top corporate rate of 34 percent on all of your contributions. In other words, we were going to t ax excessive speech. You would have to pay the government for the right to speak. That's an- other one we're going to have a great time with in court, should that be in the final version as it
2comes out of conference. The House passed an equally absu rd bill in November 1993 that did not have the speech tax, but it had some other important provisions, equally unconstitutional. For the last ten months the Democratic leadership has been arguing among themselves over such peripheral issues as how much PA C money should be allowed, and not tampering with the heart of the thing, which is spending limits and taxpayer funding. And they're having a difficuit time resolving their differences. Foley has been under a lot of pressure from people in his caucus who d o n't want this bill. Interestingly enough, the Black Caucus opposes it. A lot of the women in the Democratic Caucus don't like the bill. It's one thing to be for reform when you know that George Bush is going to veto it. It's quite another when you're shoo t ing real bullets. What we've got is a situation here where- they're shooting real bullets. So as we speak today, Democrats still have not finally resolved the differences among them- selves. But the bad news is that I anticipate they will. There have been no real conferences, just meetings between Democrats in the House and the Senate to try to work out their differences; thus the House and Senate still must formally go to conference. In order to further deter them, and to stop this legislation, we intend t o debate fully the three separate motions that must be ap- proved before the Senate can appoint conferees. I have objected to all three motions. Tomorrow afternoon we will have the first cloture vote on the first of these three debatable motions. Now, I w i ll encourage everybody to vote for cloture. You're probably wondering why. Well, if cloture is invoked, we're immediately on that motion for 30 hours. And it is my intention to see to it that we bum 90 hours on the three motions, discussing the relative m e rits of taxpayer funding of elec- tions. We need to get the message out there that what these people are trying to do here at the eleventh hour, at the end of this session, is to sock the taxpayer with the bill for our campaigns. It's an entitlement progr a m for politicians. We need to get that message out. And one of the things we discovered in the course of the health care debate, and crime for that matter, is that you get the message out by taking the floor and holding it for awhile and discuss- ing an i s sue. It begins with the C-SPAN junkies who watch, and it spreads out from there. I view it as my responsibility to make certain that the American people, if they're paying any attention at all, understand what they're trying to do here in the eleventh hou r . Democrats couldn't take over the finest health care system in the world, so they're going to try to start a new entitlement program with your money for our cardpaigns. That's what they're going to try to do here at the eleventh hour. And that's going to be adequately discussed. If there is a conference, it will last all of 15 minutes. And the Conference Report will be back, and our challenge at that point will be to filibuster the Conference Report. I am quite apologetic that we have not very successfull y used the filibuster. I am a proud guardian of gridlock. I think gridlock is making a big comeback in the country. People are yearning for gridlock. They are ask- ing for it. And the key will be whether we can hold 41 folks together to stop the Conference Report by defeating a cloture motion to end debate on it. There are 44 Republicans. Only twice have we produced 41 to kill a bill entirely. We did it on the stimulus package and we did it on striker replacement. You have my apologies that we haven't done i t more frequently. Here at the end of the session, clearly that will be the only device remaining for us. And my assumption is that the President has now decided that this is one of his top priorities that they will put the heat on and really try to push this through here at the end.
3With that overview, let me just throw it open for your questions. Q: Senator, what effects would this bill have on political parties? A: Well, essentially, the bill as it's crafted would eliminate about a third of the money that the Republican National Committee gets. It would eliminate corporate soft money entirely. It would eliminate most of the state party transfers that both ourselv e s and the Democrats use to provide voter turnout devices. This bill gores the two parties. And this is one of the rea- sons why David Broder is against the bill. He doesn't think we need to be weakening parties; he thinks we need to be strengthening them. And, by the way, -you would be inter- ested to know that virtually every academic in America is against this bill-liberals and conservatives. It's a travesty. It's a joke. And yet, we're about to do it. Q: Given that Mitchell and Boren won,t be back, if this bill is beaten, is there any hope for a better reform bill ? What if there is a Republican majority? A: Frankly, there's not much that needs to be reformed. I think the big mistake that they made in the 1970s was not indexing the contribution limit to inflation, because a thousand dollar con- tribution in the mid- 1970s is now worth $400 and something. My view-I've given a lot of thought to this-is that fundamentally the system is O.K..There are some changes I would make, but I don't think anything ma j or. My view is that the cavalry is on the way to the res- cue, and they're going to arrive here on November 8th. And if we can just stop this travesty here at the end in the eleventh hour, I don't think this kind of bill will even be on the radar screen n e xt year. This is not the kind of thing that we think is good for America. We are go- ing to be talking about capital gains tax reduction, tort reform and a variety of other things that are really good for the country Q: Why are there limits on the amounts PACs and individuals can contribute to cam- paigns? A: Well there was a big split in the Supreme Court on that issue. Chief Justice Rehnquist felt that any limit on an individual contribution was unconstitutional. The Court drew a distinc- tion between ov erall spending and individual contributions. And the distinction was essentially this: overall spending has no corruption potential. The question is, who does the money come from? The argument that the majority bought on that issue was that my ability to g ive you $ 100,000 had the potential to corrupt you, but my ability to spend $ 100,000 on my own behalf, or to spend in your behalf independently or against- you independently, had no corrupting potential. So the Court did draw a distinction between a limi t on an individual donation to another and an expenditure on behalf of yourself. You can spend everything you've got. There's nothing that the Congress can constitutionally do to keep you from spending everything you've got on your own behalf or against so m ebody. Now, that would be an interesting question if it went back to the Supreme Court. I think, basically, if you spend a lot of money today, it means you have a whole lot of support be- cause the limits are so low. If you spend a lot of money, you have t o raise it from a heck of a lot of people. So you show me a candidate who's raised a lot of money and I'll show you a candidate who's got a heck of a lot of support. So, there is nothing corrupting about spend- ing. As a matter of fact, a report out of th e Kennedy School of Government in 1979 found a few years after this law was passed, at a time when increases in spending were really dra- matic, that the fundamental problem in America is we were not spending enough on
-Zcampaigns. There was a dram atic increase in spending between 1990 and 1992, and the rea- son for that is we had more candidates, more competition and more interest. There is another statistic you would be interested in. Almost without exception the cam- paigns where there is the gr e atest spending have the highest turnout. Are we against high turnout? Obviously not. Spending generally, and almost without exception, represents inter- est, competition, which results in turnout. We shouldn't be against any of that; we ought to be for th at. Q: Let's say hypothetically its a week from now and this awful bill actually passes. Can you walk us through what your next steps will be? A: I will be going to court as the plaintiff (the co-plaintiff will be the American Civil Liberties Union) seeki ng an injunction to stop the implementation of the legislation until such time as we can get a decision. The legislation in all likelihood will have an expedited judicial review procedure provision in it. The previous bill did in the n-iid-'70s, so that t h ere was rapid con- sideration by the courts. In the previous instance, Buckley and the ACLU lost in the lower courts and the Supreme Court reversed those decisions. We are very optimistic this time we are going to win the initial case. And the easy thing f or the Supreme Court to do, unless it wants to completely re-write the Constitution and the First Amendment in this field, is sim- ply uphold the lower court. But we expect a very quick decision. I'm praying we don't have to get that far, but that's where we're headed if we lose. Q: I can envision the political arguments the other side is makin& but what legal arguments will they make? A: They're just ignoring this completely. They're going to argue that spending is corrupting. The Supreme Court has previ ously rejected that. The only thing they thought had potential to cor- rupt, to get back to your question, was my ability to give to you. And so they upheld a limit on what I can give you. They found no basis for the conclusion that- your spending had any corrupting potential. It's a dissemination of information; it's speech. They will go back and try to get the Court to conclude that the act of spending is, per se, corrupting. It's a hell of a hard argument to make. The suspicion that many of us have is t h at many Democrats do not really want to pass a bill. They are treating the issue like a dead cat in the yard. They throw it in the neighbor's yard, thinking they're never going to see it again. Well this dead cat just keeps moving. And everybody hopes tha t the dead cat's going to wind up in somebody else's front yard. And I'm confident they're hoping that either we will bury it for them in the Senate, which I fer- vently hope we will do, or if we are incapable of doing it in the end, that the courts will t a ke care of it. It's a highly cynical thing. Any of these liberals who know anything about the Constitution and the First Amendment have got to know these bills are unconstitutional. But more broadly, philosophically, liberals really believe that the parti c ipation of individu- als in political process is a corrupting thing, a tainting thing. And their goal for a number of years has been to push private people out of the campaign process and take the money out of the Treasury, the only truly unbiased source. And then, of course, the game will be to buy their votes. It's already been the game. They buy votes with tax dollars by starting a program to benefit this group and a program to benefit this group. They buy people's votes with their own tax dollars. So t he big-government crowd, if they can take over campaigns, they've got it all. They've got control of how we get here, as well as what happens after we get here. This is a very, very important issue. I think the most important issue that we dealt with this 5
year. And some would argue health care is. But the question of how elected officials are cho- sen, and ability of the people to participate in the process by opposing or supporting whomever they wish is going to determine what kind of Congress you have, a n d that's going to have a big impact on policy. And they know that. And they'd like to push all these nasty private people out of the process so they could, like philosopher kings, decide what's best for everybody. You've heard the arguments made on health care. Senator Rockefeller was very candid about it: "We need to do this whether people want it or not. We know what's best." So that's what is at the heart of this. They want to put a clamp on the speech of individual citizens and their rights to particip a te--in the political- process. That's at the core of this. My view is that the worst place to get our support is the Treasury. We ought to have to work for these jobs; we don't own these seats. And if we displease a lot of people, as Mike Synar learned ye s terday, we're not going to be back. We ought not to have a hammer lock on re- election. We ought to have to work for it. We ought to have to go out and get support. There's nothing wrong with money. How else are you going to pay for the TV? You've got to h ave money in politics. It can come from two places. It can come, from individuals, volun- tariIy given to the candidates of their choice. It's all fully disclosed on our FEC reports. Or you can get it out of the Treasury. These are the only two choices. I prefer to get it from indi- viduals, who voluntarily choose to give to me because they like what I stand for. So that's where we are.' And this is a fight for the heart and soul of the country, as far as I'm concerned -the whole process by which we get he r e. And I don't know what you can do to help in these remaining days, but I hope you will help us gin up the degree of enthusiasm we need on our side to go through the first 30 hour gauntlet, which will be difficult, although not terri- bly difficult, beca use each Senator only has to take an hour. And then the key thing, of course, will be holding 41 together.6